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... (drivers licences are not supposed to be used as identification if you look at the fine print on them, though that is how they are used in the USA). ... My NYS Driver License says no such thing - however, my Social Security ID Card does say Not to be used for identification purposes .  I think you might be confusing the two.
 
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Perhaps the idea is that eventually, just as is the case in Russia, the passport would become a national identity document that everyone would have with them at all times, just as a national identity card is used in a number of countries.
At what age does a person in Russia get one?  Newborns?  Wonder what the cost of obtaining one is as compared to the cost of obtaining a passport the first time?  How often are they updated?  Just curious if you know.
 
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The carrier will be fined for allowing you on the flight or ship without proper documentation, That may not be true. A US passport is not the only documentation on which one can validly enter the US, and carriers are not required to make a determination of everyone's citizenship before they board them. That depends on how this is implemented. When entering Brazil from the USA, the airlines not only check to make sure that you have a valid passport (must be at least one year from expiration date) but also a valid visa for entering. The Brazilian consulate in San Francisco, on their web site, states that this is the case because they will fine the airline companies if someone enters Brazil on their plane without valid documentation. If this new law resembles how Brazilian law is implemented (and supposedly the reason why it is implemented the way it is has to do with reciprocal policy in regards to Brazil's own citizens entering the USA) it may indeed become difficult for US citizens to re-enter without a passport. US citizens are not EVER supposed to enter the US without a valid *US* passport (other passports won't do). The only exception up to now has been when entering from Canada or Mexico. However, the issue above is whether the carrier can be fined for boarding you without a US passport. Since the carrier is not required to determine your citizenahip before boarding you, as long as you are in possession of valid documentation permitting you to enter the US, the carrier cannot be fined or penalized for boarding you. However, if you are a US citizen, you must enter on a *US* passport, and if you attempt to do otherwise, *you* will be fined (or administrative-fee'd ). The administrative fee has been set at $0 for several years. Although, a good talking to will be delivered by immigration officials about how a US citizen must have a US passport (and not a foreign one) IF they discover that he is a US citizen. And _base_d on several recent (last three years or so) examples that I know of, that good talking-to will (1) be more than that and (2) last longer than that
 
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Your own experience shows that they do just that.  With dual citizenship, you could enter the US on your other country's passport.  The airlines certainly couldn't know you had US citizenship, and I doubt that US immigration would know either. Actually, most likely both would at least suspect something was up, since my Swedish passport shows my US place of birth.
 
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US citizens are not EVER supposed to enter the US without a valid *US* passport (other passports won't do). The only exception up to now has been when entering from Canada or Mexico. The exception is from any country in the western hemisphere, plus some of the old US protectorates, like Micronesia.  That means, in theory, you can enter the US from South America without a passport, just proof of citizenship.  It is somewhat of a moot point, in that most countries other than Canada, Mexico, and many countries in the Caribbean require US citizens to present passports when entering their country, so citizens will likely have them when they return.  Some exceptions are Panama, Bermuda, St. Pierre & Miquelon, Bahamas, Antigua and Barbuda, and Jamaica. Having never been to any of those countries, I didn't know about that wider exception. I certainly have never heard that it applied to all of the Western Hemisphere (which, BTW, I think is bizarre). Thanks for the correction. Best, Tim
 
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Plus, because the renunciation is made to US officials , it will very often have no effect on the person's original citizenship (because those countries have specific procedures to renounce citizenship, and making a statement of renunciation to foreign offiicials, has no effect under their laws.)  For example, a person from Britain who becomes a US citizen will not lose his British citizenship because British law requires that a renunciation be made to British officials in order for it to have any effect.  The person ends up being both a US citizen and a British citizen (ie. a dual citizen).  There are many countries that have similar positions on this. In fact, the US is one of them. Renunciatory language contained in a routine oath of citizenship in another country is no longer considered by the US to have any effect, *in and of itself*, on US citizenship. Best, Tim
 
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