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Without having info at hand, I broached the subject of the Kinderhook Plates and Joseph's aborted translation of them.  Would appreciate any info from pro or anti-Mormon sources on the subject.  Understand they still exist and are on display in a Chicago-area museum.   Thanks
 
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Without having info at hand, I broached the subject of the Kinderhook Plates and Joseph's aborted translation of them.  Would appreciate any info from pro or anti-Mormon sources on the subject.  Understand they still exist and are on display in a Chicago-area museum.   Thanks There seems to be one plate left from the Kinderhook hoax
 
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Without having info at hand, I broached the subject of the Kinderhook Plates and Joseph's aborted translation of them.  Would appreciate any info from pro or anti-Mormon sources on the subject.  Understand they still exist and are on display in a Chicago-area museum.   Try the History of the Church available here: http://www.math.byu.edu/~smithw/Lds/LDS/History/History_of_the_Church The church claimed for over a hundred years that they were not fake until several years ago.  Check out the August 81 Ensign.
 
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info from pro or anti-Mormon sources on the subject.  Understand they still exist and are on display in a Chicago-area museum.   Thanks There seems to be one plate left from the Kinderhook hoax
 
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Without having info at hand, I broached the subject of the Kinderhook Plates and Joseph's aborted translation of them.  Would appreciate any info from pro or anti-Mormon sources on the subject.  Understand they still exist and are on display in a Chicago-area museum.   Thanks Here you go: I am writing concerning the Kinderhook Plates in which supposidly Joseph Smith translated in the year 1843. In April of that year, a Mr. Robert Wiley (as noted) dreamed three nights that near his home was a mound, and within this mound were treasures. After having the dream three nights in a row, he went to the place and began digging. After digging quite some time, he asked others to assist him. When a company of twelve men digged the mound, they found six brass plates, secured and fastend together by two iron wires, but which were so decayed that they readily crumbled to dust upon being handled.   It was agreed by the company that I should cleanse the plates.    Accordingly I took them to my house, washed them with soap and water    and a woolen cloth; but, finding them not yet cleansed, I treated    them with dilute sulphuric acid, which made them perfectly clean, on    which it appeared that they were completely covered with    hieroglyphics that none as yet have been able to read. The men also found human bones, possibly the burial place of a person or family. It was assumed that the plates must have contained the history of the person or the times concerning the person. The six brass plates were found near Kinderhook (thus, the Kinderhook Plates) in Illinois, on April 23rd. The skeleton they found was six feet from the surface, and was boasted at being nine feet tall. The plates were found on the breast, and were covered with ancient characters .   We, the citizens of Kinderhook, whose names are annexed, do certify    and declare that on the 23rd of April, 1843, while excavating a large    mound in this vicinity, Mr. R. Wiley took from said mound six brass    plates of a bell shape, covered with ancient characters. Said plates    were very much oxydated. The bands and rings on said plates mouldered    into dust on a slight pressure. ROBERT WILEY, W. LONGNECKER, GEO.    DECKENSON, FAYETTE GRUBB, W. FUGATE, W. P. HARRIS, J. R. SHARP, G. W.    F. WARD, IRA S. CURTIS, (From the Quincy Whig.) Many knew of Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. The decided that if Joseph Smith can decipher the hieroglyphics on the plates, he will do more towards throwing light on the early history of this continent than any man living. And also added, We think that he has done that already in translating and publishing the Book of Mormon, and would advise the gentleman and all interested to read for themselves and understand. We have no doubt, however, but Mr. Smith will be able to translate them. The plates were then given into the care of Joseph Smith, while those who handed them over doubted and possibly acknowledged the truthefulness of the BOM, though highly sceptical.   By whom these plates were deposited there must ever remain a secret,    unless some one skilled in deciphering hieroglyphics may be found to    unravel the mystery. Some pretend to say that Smith, the Mormon    leader, has the ability to read them. If he has, he will confer a    great favor on the public by removing the mystery which hangs over    them. A person present when the plates were found remarked that it    would go to prove the authenticity of the Book of Mormon, which it  undoubtedly will. Joseph Smith then translated a portion of those plates, as noted by John Taylor, and stated the following conerning them:   I have translated a portion of them, and find they contain the    history of the person with whom they were found. He was a descendant    of Ham, through the loins of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, and that he    received his kingdom from the Ruler of heaven and earth. However, the plates were then shortly taken from Joseph's care, and all manner of writing concerning Joseph being a prophet were challenged:   It is proper here to call attention to the fact that the genuineness    of this discovery of the Kinderhook plates is questioned by some    anti-Mormon writers, among them Professor William A. Linn in his late    work The Story of Mormonism. In which, after citing the fact that    both John Hyde and T. B. H. Stenhouse
 
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export sbdc < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it said: ENWithout having info at hand, I broached the subject of the Kinderhook ENPlates and Joseph's aborted translation of them.  Would appreciate any ENinfo from pro or anti-Mormon sources on the subject.  Understand they ENstill exist and are on display in a Chicago-area museum. One still exists; where it is I disremember.  The plates were admitted after Joseph's death to have been forged, and modern tests have confirmed this as reported in the *Ensign* several years ago.  I can dig up specifics from the article if you want.     Robert McKay                Father, Son, and Holy Ghost     This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it         is one God. (*D&C* 20:28)
 
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